Showing posts with label Facebook. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Facebook. Show all posts

Thursday, January 08, 2015

DFAT in comical Fact.

A bit of comedy relief compliments of Anne's (friend) Facebook post.  This post about this letter whether it be real or contrived points out the lunacy this Australian Government deploys over its so called citizens and those that are not conciliatory regardless.  This illegal government, I say illegal because sovereignty was not ceded and therefore the issue is not settled legally or morally.

English: Title: Aboriginal bora ceremony
English: Title: Aboriginal bora ceremony (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Given the absolute in your face GENOCIDAL PRACTICES used to breed out the "BLACKS" as they were termed is evident through history and therefore there was never a point of respect gained where the people of this land are recognized as supreme in knowledge and culture that is fit for the health and governance of this beautiful expansive land.  Nothing was wrong for forty thousand years plus regardless, that is like forever as some quote 60,000 years.  The British have been here for 250 years and the land is screaming.   Please read on and enjoy the humor.

Administering the Oath, Eureka Stockade 1854.
Administering the Oath, Eureka Stockade 1854. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

AUSTRALIAN LETTER - I think the sender might have been upset!

This is an actual letter sent to the DFAT (Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade) Immigration Minister. The Government tried desperately to censure the author, but got nowhere because every legal person who read it couldn’t stop laughing !
Dear Mr Minister,

I'm in the process of renewing my passport, and still cannot believe this.  How is it that K-Mart has my address and telephone number, and knows that I bought a television set and golf clubs and condoms from them back in 1997, and yet the Federal Government is still asking me where I was born and on what date ?

For Christ sakes, do you guys do this by hand?

My birth date you have in my Medicare information, and it is on all the income tax forms I've filed for the past 40 years.

It is also on my driver's license, on the last eight passports I've ever had, on all those stupid customs declaration forms I've had to fill out before being allowed off planes
over the past 30 years.

It's also on all those insufferable census forms that I've filled out every 5 years since 1966.

Also... would somebody please take note, once and for all, that my mother's name is Audrey, my father's name is Jack, and I'd be absolutely bloody astounded if that ever
changed between now and when I drop dead !!!

SHIT! What do you people do with all this information we keep having to provide?
I apologize, Mr. Minister. But I'm really pissed off this morning.

Between you and me, I've had enough of all this bullshit! You send the application to my house, then you ask me for my bloody address!

What the hell is going on with your mob? Have you got a gang of mindless Neanderthal arseholes working there!

And another thing, look at my damn picture. Do I look like Bin Laden? I can't even grow a beard for God's sakes. I just want to go to New Zealand and see my new granddaughter. (Yes, my son interbred with a Kiwi girl).

And would someone please tell me, why would you give a shit whether or not I plan on visiting a farm in the next 15 days? In the unlikely event I ever got the urge to do something weird to a sheep or a horse, believe you me, I'd sure as hell not want to tell anyone!

Well, I have to go now, 'cause I have to go to the other side of Sydney , and get another bloody copy of my birth certificate - and to part with another $80 for the privilege of accessing MY OWN INFORMATION!

Would it be so complicated to have all the services in the same spot, to assist in the issuance of a new passport on the same day?

Nooooo…that'd be too bloody easy and makes far too much sense. You would much prefer to have us running all over the bloody place like chickens with our heads cut off, and then having to find some 'high-society' wanker to confirm that it's really me in the goddamn photo! You know the photo... the one where we're not allowed to smile?...you bloody morons.

Signed - An Irate Australian Citizen.

P.S. Remember what I said above about the picture, and getting someone in 'high-society' to confirm that it's me?

Well, my family has been in this country since before 1820! In 1856, one of my forefathers took up arms with Peter Lalor. (You do remember the Eureka Stockade!)

I have also served in both the CMF and regular Army for something over 30 years (I went to Vietnam in 1967), and still have high security clearances.

I'm also a personal friend of the president of the RSL...Lt General Peter Cosgrove sends me a Christmas card each year.

However, your rules require that I have to get someone "important" to verify who I am; you know...someone like my doctor - WHO WAS BORN AND RAISED IN BLOODY PAKISTAN!...a country where they either assassinate or hang their ex-Prime Ministers - and are suspended from the Commonwealth and United Nations for not having the "right sort of government"..

You are all pen-pushing paper-shuffling bloody idiots!

Eureka Stockade leader Peter Lalor in later li...
Eureka Stockade leader Peter Lalor in later life as Speaker of the Legislative Assembly of Victoria. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Tuesday, August 19, 2014

Groundswell Gloucester Media Release - AGL Endorses Confrontation in Gloucester NSW.

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 Media Release
19 August 2014
AGL endorses confrontation in Gloucester.

Head of AGL community relations, Julie Delvecchio, has encouraged a pro-mining faction to confront a peaceful vigil in progress at AGL’s office in Gloucester.

A post from the ‘Gloucester Supports Mining’ Facebook page:

I would love to see a hundred fluro coloured shirts beat these people to there spot one morning, won't have to get up early , but it would be good to see the real people , the workers and there families turn up in force dressed in flouro work clothes to show we to are serious ! I think we would out number them at least 5:1 , I'm only new at this FB but if someone can get it out there I'm in let's make a stand and let our views be heard,

Facebook logo
Facebook logo (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

August 14 at 8:25pm

Julie Delvecchio, who is also a member of the Facebook group, ‘liked’ the message.
In Ms Delvecchio’s AGL community newsletter of 18 August, 2014, she endorses the Facebook page:

Finally, I wanted to highlight a new group of Gloucester residents coming together to
support extractive industries.

The Facebook group ‘Gloucester supports mining’ was created last Tuesday and already has more than 345 members. The driving force behind the group is an understanding of the economic benefits previous resources projects have brought to the community, and creating a space for people to talk about their support for our projects and others like it.

The ‘Gloucester Supports Mining’ administrator is closely linked with AGL. She has featured on the AGL website and in the Gloucester Advocate with the local AGL community relations manager, also a member of the Facebook page, to promote their working relationship.

The administrator’s separate, personal Facebook page featured several posts on August 11 suggesting various aggressive actions against peaceful participants, should they choose to camp in the area. Suggestions ranged from zip-tying participants’ fingers together, to throwing horse manure, to burning the tents.

It appears that this thread was the basis for the August 12 launch of the AGL - endorsed ‘Gloucester Supports Mining’ page.

Chair of Groundswell, Julie Lyford, said ‘Encouraging aggressive behaviour is a clear indication that AGL is unfit to hold a Petroleum Exploration Licence in Gloucester or elsewhere.

AGL’s only published survey shows there is just 13% support for CSG in NSW but instead of engaging in real consultation on this, they are deepening the divisions they have already created in our community.’

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Images @ Eminpee Fotography

Saturday, August 16, 2014

There is a protest against the protestors - Gloucester Supports Mining -

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The pro mining sector of Gloucester have rallied themselves and gotten a Facebook page to gather support against the Protectors of the Gloucester Valley.

The posts on the page have alluded to creating violence against those protectors who are locals and not from other areas as reported on this group.  There are many more supporters of NO CSG but these people are elderly and they fear the tactics of this red neck type vigilante group.

The page is loaded with made up stories of protectors peeing on a public road in front of the motel to lighting fires everywhere to abuse of people to saying the protestors are paid a total of $150.00 a day to protest.

The page was started by Joolz and Dave Ireland and Kylie Cole and this is how they describe this group and what they say about their town of Gloucester

"Most locals know that for years, mining has been the main driving force in our town. Without it our town was dead and buried long ago. The mills slowly closed their doors leaving locals without work, then came time for the dairy farmers to close their doors as well as the local butter factory which in turn more jobs where lost. Locals where leaving town to find work else where. Then along came the mine, which created jobs for the locals again and put money back into town, it bought new families to town who have since settled here, their children going to school and working local, growing up and having families of their own and continuing to live locally.
Now we have people who don't even live in the area coming into our town and picketing and protesting about the mine. Setting up a protester camp to accommodate 50 tents with the option to expand and making our town look ugly with all the signs they have continually pushed down your throat. Whats even funnier is that they sit outside AGL head quarters in Gloucester protesting but then continually ask AGL staff if they can use AGL amenities. Sitting there with their gas burners heating their cups of tea.
Lets protest against the protesters, Lets show them that this is our town and in our town mining is supported.


Do you have a mining story to tell, are you someone who came here with the mines and are still here now. Please feel free to post it we would love to hear about it."
I managed to get inside of this group and so I will continue to read what they are thinking.  I am appalled at the level of made ups stories already printed there and already asking Police to action things that are completely fictional.  This is breaking the law and wasting police time.


Images @ Eminpee Fotography

Saturday, May 17, 2014

The Den of Vipers That Own and Control Australia as posted on LTG.

Skyscraper - Headquarter of Deutsche Bank AG i...
Skyscraper - Headquarter of Deutsche Bank AG in Frankfurt am Main / Germany (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
This post randomly appeared on the Lock the Gate Facebook Page so I thought I would Blog it because there was so much in this post that does deserve some follow up.

I therefore would like time to check the various links quoted etc

Tuesday, March 18, 2014

Splintering the Enemy by Peter Deane


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Splintering the Enemy - some observations for campaigners.

From GLOBAL INFORMATION OF COAL SEAM GAS.

Okay, you've got your cause. It's the greatest scourge since the slave trade, and it needs to be stopped.  The government isn't listening and it appears there are vested interests pushing their agenda.

What next?

Naturally, you need to protest. But beware: the organisation pushing their desires are fully aware people will object to what they're doing.  They know, probably better than anyone else, exactly what the negative consequences are for their push.  They've done their homework, and have reams of research answering anticipated objections.  They can release this gradually over a long term so it gives an appearance they constantly have all the answers, and this pesky little Greenie group doesn't know what they are talking about.

Let's pause a little and make some assumptions for this article.  I will refer to the organisation (almost always a publicly listed company) trying to do something objectionable as the "Pusher", and they are promoting their "push".  Campaigners will be known as protestors, which is not so ambiguous.

There are several big advantages a Pusher has.  They are normally large, driven by the profit motive, and united.  That last point is the focus of this article.  Almost all statements coming from the Pusher are issued centrally, in an organised manner.  

Some lazy members of the press won't even investigate and write their own story.  Once they strike up a relationship with a Pusher, they'll often simply reproduce their press releases word-for-word, and they'll take home their paycheques for being a "journalist".  The Pusher, encouraged by this, might become aware of the fact, and even include some minor objections in their press releases, so that coverage obtained looks less than uniformly positive, and thus reduces the suspicion of readers.

This is all going on in the corporate world of the Pusher.  They'll have a legal department, media relations department, loads of experience dealing with the press and a lot of money.  A lot more resources than a protest group will ever be able to muster.

The battle with protestors is always one where the two competing sides are most definitely not on a level playing field.  Protestors can only watch on with awe at the resources a Pusher has at its disposal.  And you might be thinking "what's the point - I can't possibly compete with that - I'll just give up now and get back to my usual life".  I'd say a lot of protestors end up doing exactly that.

And don't the Pushers know it?  A corporation has another advantage - longevity.  The record for a human is 116 years.  But there are some corporations in the world that have been in existence for several centuries.  They have long-term goals, and even if something gets banned now, then in twenty years time it might start reaping benefits for the Pusher, so a few useful procedures taken at this point in time might end up paying off in a decade or two.  It might be worth it, because a corporation has longer term goals than a human.  It's a very common practice, for example, for a company being sued by a person they've made sick to delay all their actions using legal and other methods, and then wait for the opponent to die.  That normally shuts the protestor up completely.

But the main advantage a Pusher has over the protestors is a united voice.  Press are required to only deal with the media relations officer of the company.  Strict guidelines are developed in what can and can't be said.  But the main thing is that these statements will be reported in the media as "Pusher said..." or "A spokesperson for Pusher told us..."  And all the media coverage is centred on the one point.

Compare this to protest groups. On Facebook, there are, for example, over 1,000 pages opposing the operations of companies wanting to exploit Coal Seam Gas reserves.  Without going into the merits of the issue, this by its very existence, is a major barrier to the protestors.  There isn't a united voice against the cause.  There are thousands.

A Pusher will see this and use it to their advantage.  It's not one united voice standing up against the Pusher's cause, it's an array of fractured groups, with a vague common purpose, but little else in common.  So the technique of divide and conquer is something the Pusher can employ.  They can even get this advantage with absolutely no effort on their part, when individual groups protest about EACH OTHER and how they are going to do deal with it.

An interest group should have one objective (ie to oppose whatever they want to oppose) and NO MORE, otherwise it de-focuses their efforts.  It's normally difficult enough to get enough volunteers to do mundane things like stuffing envelopes, or turning up early on Saturday morning to man the Sausage Sizzle stall. 

In a regional area with a small population, you might be lucky to get enough people to do this effectively for one group.  Yet the ponderous thing is that in a small country town, you might see three or four "splinter" groups set up protesting against the same thing, simply because one group does not like another group's efforts.

What is missing is trust.  There's always more than one way to skin a cat.  In fact, the way Pushers work, you need to be able to attack from various fronts.  But a group needs to trust its members will do the right thing.  The members also need to trust the group to do the right thing.  Without that trust, unity is gone.

A lot of arbitrary decisions get made by local groups in undertaking tasks.  Certainly you need to agree on a plan of action and carry it out, but that plan may well include things that you, personally, don't think will work, or reckon might be using the wrong methods.  But often you reach a point in time when you need to do SOMETHING. 

The decision on what exactly that something is might be a very difficult value judgment.

A group is made up of a disparate number of people all with varying talents, abilities and available time and resources.  Obviously people are going to think differently and come up with different answers to the same question.  But deep down they all believe the same thing, ie that Pusher is an evil force and needs to be stopped.

You need to step back and look at the motivation behind each person's actions.  It is to protest against the Pusher.  You're home and hosed with that alone - try not to complicate it, and leave it at that.

What it becomes is XXXX is going to protest against Pusher by doing YYYY
I don't think we have any place doing YYYY, I'd rather do ZZZZ, so I'm going to object to XXXX and go off and join AA instead, and give XXXX a spray for coming up with such a stupid idea in the first place. 

Keep thinking like this and your visits to AA might become more frequent, or the requirement of a court order.

But what it means is the efforts are de-valued.  It makes it difficult to protest because "always the same people turn up and no-one else ever joins in", plus not only is the Pusher working against you, but groups who have exactly the same stated intent are also working counter-productively.  
In this case who are your enemies?  It'd be a lot quicker to list your allies.
Pushers jump on this opportunity.  Despite the validity of a message that a protest group might have (eg if Pusher keeps doing this, then all aquatic life with 100 km will die) the Pusher can simply point out that ah yes, that's what XXXX says and they did YYYY, but another group has instead said KKKK and rejected XXXX's statements completely.  They can do this with little or no effort on their part.

All your energies protesting, all your valid arguments, are all not so much lost, but their effect is substantially reduced.  If your Pusher can say that, and you're not even starting to explore the validity of your arguments, what is the point in protesting at all?

When groups spend time countering each other's activities, that time is completely wasted.  Indeed, it's worst than wasted as it will probably reduce the effectiveness of other campaigns, and consume the meagre resources protest groups have.

Before you question someone or a group's efforts, ask yourself the motivation behind their actions.  If these motivations are based on hate and violence, then perhaps you do have a valid reason to object to that group.  But that's a rare extreme case.  People in protest groups are motivated by a disdain of what they're protesting about, and they react by doing whatever they can do within their power.  Their motives are usually kind-hearted and come from deeply within their hearts.  They only have malice for the pusher, not other protest groups.

So if you think a group might be doing the wrong thing, don't have a look at the details of a protest, look at the motivation behind it.  You need to trust the fact that other group is doing exactly what your group is doing, only using different methods, and different resources.  It's quite valid to object to a protest motivated by the wrong reasons, but I'd put it to you that that would never be the case for a small locally based protest group.

Splintering the protest group into a fragmented and disorderly rabble is EAXCTLY what the Pusher will want.  It might happen with no effort whatsoever on the Pusher's part, but it WILL affect the effectiveness of your actions.  Don't do it.
(Peter Deane)
My yarn on this subject
Good bit of writing, a little hairy in the XXXX and AA and YYYY etc but if you re read that a couple of times you will get his drift there. 
Nothing has changed in groups and or teams since I studied this as a subject at TAFE.   People do inevitably pull together in the face of adversity.  But there is good old human nature and all of my years in soccer showed me this also.  I have much experience with committees and working in teams,  it isn't easy ever.  This is the reason a lot of people don't want to get involved is because this always happens and I mean it ALWAYS seems to happen.   Human Nature see.

I think it is a tool that is used in close groups and it is done with the help of what I have learned is called and Agent Provocateur a french word for trouble maker.

I was well schooled in this by Lock the Gate people.  I had never heard of that term before then though even though in Groups and Teams work I studied how people respond in situations.
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Friday, February 21, 2014

Dialogue on the drug AROPAX

Popular anti-depressant linked to breast cancer.  

This article sparked lively conversation regarding our personal perspectives on Big PHARMA and the use of anti-depressants.  

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Kay Phillips-Sanders
Mary after a lot of medication it agrees with me unlike other ones and I'm not going of it. I don't have breast cancer and I have been on it for years.

Mary-Ellen Peters
AROPAX is linked to other elements of ongoing health problems as well, I remember reading a couple of years back.. SSRI's fk with people full stop. I am glad your are in super health.. perhaps you are the exception here as there always are exceptions.

Kay Phillips-Sanders
I'm also aware of that fact but I choose to stay on it. It's better than being so bloody depressed you want to kill yourself, I'm aware about it all I check the pills the doctors give me.

Kay Phillips-Sanders Mary I went of the drug and nearly lost my life through stupidity so I have no intention of going through that again as it takes a month to get into your system. Explain to me how my sister was veg. didn't smoke and lived a healthy life style but still got cancer so did my gran the same one. Look at all the things they say causes cancer my god the list will go on and on.

Mary-Ellen Peters Yes a lot of people have taken their own lives trying to free themselves from the chemical handcuffs that big pharma have engineered to control a large number of the population. This is a life sentence!

Kay Phillips-Sanders Well all I can say is good on big pharma or I wouldn't be here, just like my brother. It's saving my life and makes me think if I did anything stupid the hurt it would cause other and don't be so cruel in your comment. You haven't been through anything like I have and I was never on it until after my daughter and mum died 3 months apart. Thank you very much, you wouldn't like to have the nightmares I used to have.

Kay Phillips-Sanders Oh! By the way Kevin wasn't on anything and look what happened to him.
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 Mary-Ellen Peters No Kay I have enough nightmares of my own ...and I choose to stand up against those terrors with out chemical handcuffs.. My PTSD is multifaceted and part of the damage to my psyche by others enables me to see things from a perspective that is unique, that is a given and it creates a passion to speak out on all injustices that have effected me. One of them is about trying to control my environment because badly abused children have no control over their circumstances ie environment and desire to have fairness prevail. Having a number done on people by big pharma .. big Gas and Big Bullshit is not my idea of the kind of world we all deserve as humans, that is control! I do not wish to be controlled because I desire to do no harm.

Kay Phillips-Sanders I'm not controlled by anyone Mary, I had a hash childhood called the stockwhip regularly, so don't tell me, mum was on Thyroxin, I think that was the one, that kept her alive. Go of the dope and I'm not being nasty saying that, I know from experience it kills people feelings in other ways. So don't tell me I'm under control of chemical handcuffs. You have no idea, there is also nothing wrong with my psyche, I would say what I have seen and experienced it higher than yours. Also no one in this world is unique so that is rubbish

Mary-Ellen Peters Its not a competition, it is an observation of myself and my own situation, which is my perception. Guess what? Everyone has a unique one of those. No two people are the same.

Kay Phillips-Sanders Glad you said that but as I said I need to be on those tablets for my own protection. You have no idea of my life like a lot of my close friends do so don't judge that is all I'm asking we all have a choice and make our own decisions for what is best. Might not always be right but it a learning curve, that a part of life I'm afraid. If and I say if I get cancer then it's gods will. I should of been dead when I was 5 yrs of age but I'm not I survived when I shouldn't of had. Also had a spinal tap without pain killers back in those days, I have the mark on my back to prove it and have never forgotten what that pain was like. I'm talking the old days here.

Mary-Ellen Peters Science is catching up and it is now documented that we have an ENDOCANNABINOID System as part of our endocrine system (hormones) Cannabis is not evil as the evangelical government propaganda has purported. Blindly spreading misnomers has been part of their MO for the last 1700 years as well. So its to be expected... The situation when it changes with this will happen quickly. I think its overdue.

Mary-Ellen Peters I had a lumbar puncture too (spinal tap) in 1976 . . that was bad enough although you could smoke in hospital beds in those days.. I remember! I had nearly died 3 times by the time I was 7 years old... Malnutrition and two counts of drowning, then a black snake curled up in my playpen so that was prolly a little dodgy as well, I have no idea what a real family is.. having been abandoned at four months of age.

Kay Phillips-Sanders Well that's funny as it was America who ordered Australia to destroy it after world war 2. It is dangerous to the young who smoke until their brain has fully grown, I have seen that look at half of Bellingen, they walk around like they are out of this world. We need medication in this world and they are getting close to finding cures for a number of things. Now for the other answer for someone who was abandoned at the age of four mothers sweetie you seem contradict yourself. What was the cause of your near death.

Mary-Ellen Peters I like to think of it like this : I have unusual emotional responses, therefore I am extraordinary.. lol. They are using a sacred plant to find a short cut to fun thats why, this plant teaches you things and if you dont heed the lessons I suppose it would be fair to say their are consequences as there is with everything we choose in life.

Kay Phillips-Sanders Nope can't agree with that sorry, you still didn't answer my question.

Kay Phillips-Sanders We can all be emotional at times it's part of life and that is a fact

Mary-Ellen Peters Emotion is what is holding the illusion together ... the Universe is mental, held in the mind of the all and the ALL is ALL there is!

Kay Phillips-Sanders Your talking like you have manic depression or bipolar Mary, there is a god out there, we are spirits trapped in a physical body and when we die we leave and go onto another plain until we are ready to come back. I know that for sure.

Kay Phillips-Sanders I can swear on this as I have been there and seen for myself it helped me a bit when my sister died.

Mary-Ellen Peters My mother bathed me and left me in the middle of the bed and she left ... I was four months old. My sister was 2 years old ... she drank what bottles i did get forced on my as until then I was breastfed and didn't know what a bottle was.. I was then very weak and not well and was diagnosed with malnutrition mainly my own fault I should have known to drink the bottles at FOUR MONTHS lol! I drowned at the Stanthorpe pool with Kay looking after me and again with Kay looking after I nearly drowned at Coolangatta.. my near deaths were a 12 when I tried to take my own life because be physically abused so much had taken its toll and then I was taken hostage ... I could keep elaborating. I had a touch and go situation with septicemia which led me to have major micro surgery and years on IVF ... I was burnt and in hosp for 3 months in Ipswich .. Then there was John lol! I almost died giving birth to Matilda we were both very close to death and she was a miracle as all other babies in her circumstance have serious issues.. i am glad she fought hard.

Mary-Ellen Peters I lived on the street ...I lost the sight in my eyes when I was 15 for 6 weeks and was in the Royal when Kay found me then I got Meningitis(reason for lumbar puncture) I have fought hard to be who I am and to be alive and to be able to speak from a perspective that is entirely unique, I have put into the communities I have lived in. I have made mistakes and learned many valuable lessons that others could only dream about... Some I won't elaborate on here but valuable no less even through the trauma. The trauma is the fire that refines a persons character. I usually tell people straight up these days ... saves the shock of finding out I see around corners and that is a unique gift.

Kay Phillips-Sanders I'm sorry to hear that but it is so strange not being able to feed out of a bottle with a teat on the end. Mine was from encephalitis you can look that up and I still remember when I collapsed out side this little church on the way home, it had white pebbles all over the yard no grass. Mum gave me a chocolate freckle and I couldn't swallow it and she said I went into a coma in the back of an ambulance. She told me she would never go in and ambulance again and she never did. This happen for a reason it gave me a lot of common sense as I wasn't the brightest child in the school only being in a B class but it was better than C I guess.

Kay Phillips-Sanders Maybe that is why we can debate on different things it give one something to think about from a different angle I guess anyway I'm off to bed. Goodnight, dream about the angles.

Mary-Ellen Peters I was taken away and abandoned again when I was 12 when I became a ward of the state. So the story wasn't pretty and many who walked in my footsteps are not alive to tell the story and the ones who are, I find are very unique characters indeed, because they have succeeded.

Mary-Ellen Peters God is still the supreme creator as I always saw my perception of God to be but its been a heck of a long journey of enlightenment to find the crucible of truth. The Seven principals of truth that act as keys to understanding all of the paradoxes I have faced in life and tried to find out why... I am quite enthusiastic about this, it makes the reason for being here no matter what the pain, a learning experience day after day.

Mary-Ellen Peters The angles ... I love the angles ---> angles of light that are symbolised in our numerals. So fascinating. good Night and sweet dreams

Mary-Ellen Peters on TRUTH: Every truth is only half true. Every truth has its absolute truth and its relative truth, but there is a difference between absolute truth and relative truth and they often contradict each-other. The key to understanding the great teachers and spiritual leaders of the past is being able to discern when they are speaking from an absolute perspective of a relative perspective. The relative truth about the nature of reality, the truth we experience and are familiar with, is that the universe is very real and physical place, and it is true statement. But the absolute truth, experienced by what we would call God, is that the universe IS a mental construction existing only within the realms of consciousness, and this is also a true statement despite their contradiction. Many people get lost in half truths, by not understanding the difference between absolute and relative truth. It's about finding the middle path and being aware of both the absolute and relative.
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Tuesday, September 24, 2013

FIRO-B & Belbin ... Groups and Teams and the Roles played

While I was researching group dynamics, I found this snippet. I thought to save it for its contemporary stance.  It clearly shows some of the roles people take on in most group situations. 

Pictured below is a bodgy "facebook conversation" showing thesw roles . I have  added the theory behind this further on.


FIRO-B  = Fundamental Interpersonal Relations Orientation-Behaviour


The Trouble Maker
The Bait Taker
The Chime In
The Lazy Activist
The Bro
The Peace Maker
The Embarrassment
The Random Acquaintance
The Thoughtful One

References: The Happy Place

Today I spent all day processing my photos and catching up on a weeks worth of blogs for both this blog and Sentimental Rox. That is a lot of catching up.   I was being a good team member for myself.   As individuals we do this also, that is another subject though.

I was first exposed to "The Roles" in "Groups and Teams", as a subject I studied when doing Community Services Welfare Cert IV.  Incidentally,  I passed with a Distinction.

The personalities of team members influence their team’s effectiveness. Individuals will tend to play a role within the team,  and this will be dependent upon certain personality aspects they harbor. 

People play different roles in groups. People also play multiple roles in groups.
 
If there is some understanding of these "roles" members take on can lead to a much more satisfying and deeper understanding of team effectiveness and team development.

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Radha and Lei and Simmo at Gloucester.

Detailed from the PGA Group for Assessing & Developing People for Results
 FIRO Team Role  Description
Clarifier Presents issues or solutions for clarification, summarizes discussion, introduces new members to the team, keeps team members up to date, provides the group with facts and data.
Tension-Reducer Helps move the team along by joking or clowning at appropriate moments, redirects the group at tense moments, builds on common interests in the group.
Individualist Is not an active team player, sees meetings as unnecessary or distracting, may work on other tasks or hold side conversations during meetings, may not follow through or cooperate with group decisions.
Director Pushes for action and decision-making, may interrupt others or monopolize the ‘air-time’ in meetings, may be unrealistically optimistic about what can be accomplished.
Questioner Seeks orientation and clarification, is a constructive critic of the team and its members, may use questions to postpone closure or decisions.
Rebel Struggles to establish a position within the group, may criticize others, challenges the status quo, may refuse to comply with group decisions, provides alternative ideas but may have difficulty with follow-through.
Encourager Builds the ego or status of others, is friendly, responsive, warm, diplomatic, may sacrifice the truth to maintain good relationships.
Listener Maintains a participatory attitude and interest non verbally, is involved in group goals, shows interest by receptive facial and bodily expressions.
Cautioner Expresses concern about the direction of the group, relays doubts about the success of initiatives planned, shows reluctance to get swept up in group energy, provides careful analysis of potential problems, may play devil’s advocate.
Initiator Suggests procedures or problems as discussion topics, proposes alternative solutions, is the ‘idea person,’ actively encourages others to share in discussions.
Energizer Urges the team toward decision-making, insists on covering the agenda, prods the team to action.
Opinion-Giver States a belief or opinion on all problems and issues, offers predictions based on past experiences, works independently from the group, does not try to become part of the leader’s inner circle.
Harmonizer Agrees with the group, reconciles opposing positions, understands, complies, and accepts.
Consensus-Tester Checks for agreement, brings closure to discussions, confronts unacknowledged feelings in the group, wants to build a close-knit, powerful team.
Task-Master Tries to keep the group focused on its central purpose and required outcomes, ignores social chitchat, believes that the team members do not have to like each other to do the job, reminds the group that this is business, not a family.

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"The Living End's" Double Bass.
Belbin Team-Role Description
Co-ordinator
[Chairman]
Specifies controlling the way in which the team moves towards the group objectives by making the best use of team resources, recognizing where the team’s strengths and weaknesses lie, and ensuring that the best use is made of each team member’s potential.
Shaper
[Shaper]
Specifies shaping the way in which team effort is applied, directing attention generally to the setting of objectives and priorities, and seeking to impose some shape or pattern on group discussion and on the outcome of group activities.
Plant
[Plant]
Specifies advancing new ideas and strategies with special attention to major issues, and looking for possible breaks in approach to the problems which confront the team.
Implementer
[Company Worker]
Specifies turning concepts and plans into practical working procedures, and carrying out agreed plans systematically and efficiently.
Teamworker
[Team Worker]
Specifies supporting members in their strengths (e.g. building on suggestions), underpinning members in their shortcomings, improving communications between members and fostering team spirit generally.
Monitor Evaluator
[Monitor-Evaluator]
Specifies analysing problems, and evaluating ideas and suggestions so that the team is better placed to take balanced decisions.
Resource Investigator
[Resource Investigator]
Specifies exploring and reporting on ideas, developments and resources outside the group, creating external contacts that may be useful to the team and conducting any subsequent negotiations.
Completer Finisher
[Completer-Finisher]
Specifies ensuring that the team is protected as far as possible from mistakes of both commission and omission, actively searching for aspects of work which need a more than usual degree of attention, and maintaining a sense of urgency within the team.
Specialist New team-role added to the original taxonomy. The Specialist provides knowledge and skills in rare supply. Single-minded, self-starting, dedicated. Contributes only on a narrow front. Dwells on technicalities.


Task roles, maintenance roles and hindering roles are all important roles for facilitators to be aware of and recognize.

Task Roles  - By Ann Porteus
 
Task roles refer to the actions of individuals that help move the project, decision, task along.

Initiating
  • What: Proposing task or goals; defining a group problem; suggesting procedure or ideas for getting the task accomplished.

  • When: At the beginning of a meeting, when the meeting bogs down, or when the group needs direction or new direction.

  • How: Define the task; suggest a method or process for accomplishing the task; provide a structure for the meeting.
    "It seems like we are being asked to ...",
    "Does it seem like a good idea to begin by...?"
Information or Opinion Seeking
  • What: Requesting facts; seeking relevant information about a question or concern; asking for suggestions, ideas or opinions.

  • When: Problem solving, decision making, action planning, group discussion.

  • How: Ask for more facts; collect data; seek individual opinions, ideas and suggestions. "What are the likely solutions?",
    "Mary, what do you think of that idea?",
    "What else do we need to know before we can proceed?"

Clarifying 

  • What: Interpreting or reflecting ideas and suggestions; clearing up conclusions; indicating alternatives and issues before the group; giving examples, defining terms.

  • When: Any time the group discussion becomes too vague, too general or lacks focus; when a lot of information has been put out.

  • How: Ask for clarification of an example; build on the ideas of others; clarify an idea based on your understanding; try to develop timid suggestions and half stated ideas into fully developed possibilities. "What I think I hear you saying is ___",
    "Robert, can you explain your idea a bit more,"
    "Cecilia, do you see how that idea relates to what Luis said earlier?"
Summarizing
  • What: Pulling together related ideas; restating suggestions after the group has discussed them; offering a decision or conclusion for the group to accept or reject.

  • When: At each transition in the meeting, when many different ideas or proposals are being considered, when the group gets off track; at the end of a meeting/ discussion.

  • How: Restate the points, decisions, action plans or common themes of the discussion; remind the group of the process or method being used. "Let's take a minute to look at the main themes that are arising in our discussion"
    "It looks like the main points being raised are ___"
    "Remember that each person needs to offer a suggestion before we begin an open discussion."
Consensus Testing
  • What: Checking with the group to see how much agreement has been reached and how ready the group members are to consider a decision.

  • When: Problem solving, decision making, action planning.

  • How: Poll the group on an issue or decision to determine whether a consensus already exists. "Are there any objections to using creative brainstorming to identify potential solutions for our problem?"
    "Is there agreement that...?"


Maintenance roles refer to the actions of individuals that help preserve the relationships in a group.
Encouraging
  • What: Being friendly, warm, and responsive to others; accepting others and their contributions; regarding others by giving them an opportunity to contribute or be recognized.

  • When: Regularly.

  • How: Give recognition for contributions to the group, point out the accomplishments of the group. "That was a really good suggestion, Chris. Thanks."
    "We have accomplished a lot today. Thanks."
Harmonizing
  • What: Attempting to reconcile disagreements; reducing tension, getting people to explore their differences.

  • When: When the group cannot reach consensus, when conflict of ideas, opinions or personality is preventing progress.

  • How: Articulate the common elements in conflicting points of view. "What can we do to get you to support this? What can we all agree on?"
    "We seem to be stuck. What can we do to move the discussion along?"
Expressing Group Feelings
  • What: Sensing feelings, mood, relationships within the group; sharing one's own feelings with other members.

  • When: When the group is having trouble making a decision, when you sense a conflict in the group, as a check-in to see how the group is doing.

  • How: Verbalizing what you see as the feelings, mood, tension in the group. Openly acknowledging your own feelings about what is going on in the group. "I am sensing that there is some tension in the room. does anyone else feel it?"
    "It seems like some people have withdrawn from this discussion. Is that something we need to discuss?"
Gatekeeping
  • What: Helping to keep communication channels open: facilitating the participation of others, suggesting procedures that permit sharing remarks.

  • When: Whenever you want to hear from the more silent members of the group, whenever you want to prevent a participant from dominating the discussion.

  • How: Ask an individual for their opinions or the information; be sensitive to the non-verbal signals indicating that people want to participate; when a person monopolizes the conversation, ask others for input "Jeff, did you want to share something?"
    "Thanks for your input, Robin. I would like to know what the rest of you think."
Compromising
  • What: When your own ideas or status is involved in a conflict, offering a compromise which yields status; admitting error, modifying ideas in interest of group cohesion or growth.

  • When: When the group is stuck, when trying to make a decision and there are opposing views.

  • How: Offering suggestions for getting unstuck; asking the group members to figure out a compromise. "I guess this method may not be the best for accomplishing this task. Shall we try Kim's idea?"
    "I feel like we are stuck with two opposing views, what can we do to reach a compromise?"
Standard Setting and Testing
  • What: Checking whether the group is satisfied with its procedures; suggesting new procedures when necessary.

  • When: When the group first meets together, whenever the norms that are developing prevent the group from functioning effectively.

  • How: Help group define its ground rules; remind group of the standards they established for themselves anytime when those rules are ignored or broken. "How do we want to operate as a group?"
    "Seems like our ground rules have been forgotten. Should we take a few minutes and revisit them?"
    "I just want to remind you of the ground rules we set up in the beginning."



Hindering Roles

Hindering roles refer to actions of individuals that hinder the group's process and progress.

Dominating
  • Behavior: Asserting authority or superiority to manipulate the group or certain members; interrupting contributions of others; controlling through use of flattery or patronization.

  • Solution: Establish a procedure whereby each person contributes one idea to the discussion and then must wait until every other group member does the same before contributing again; interrupt the dominator, ask him/her to summarize the point quickly so that others can add their ideas, too. "Thank you for giving us all those ideas, Erin. Let's hear from others in the group now."
Withdrawing
  • Behavior: Removing self psychologically or physically from the group; not talking; answering questions only briefly.

  • Solution: Do not let conflicts remain unresolved; talk with the person privately to find out what is happening; direct questions to and solicit ideas from the avoider so this person stays involved. "Carol, I have noticed that you haven't been as involved in the group lately. Is everything O.K.?"
Degrading
  • Behavior: Putting down others' ideas and suggestions; deflating others' status; joking in a barbed or sarcastic way.

  • Solution: When your group first gets together, review your contract and ground rules with them, highlighting the rule that all ideas will be accepted; the first time someone criticizes another person, reinforce this rule. "You have a point, but we need to solve our problem, not attack each other's ideas."
Uncoooperative
  • Behavior: Disagreeing and opposing ideas; resisting stubbornly the group's wishes for personally oriented reasons; using hidden agenda to thwart group progress.

  • Solution: Incorporate statements in the original guidelines that deal with cooperation and interruptions, encourage this person to explain reasons behind his/her objection; look for any aspect of the position that supports the group's ideas so that this person moves from left to center field; refocus his/her participation as a recorder or process observer; ask the group to deal with this uncooperative behavior. "It seems like we may be forgetting the ground rules we set up as a group. Should we take a few minutes to revisit them now?" "Sandy, that is an interesting view. Could you explain how you came to those conclusions?"
Side Conversations
  • Behavior: Whispering, giggling and having private side conversations with another person.

  • Solution: Set guidelines and expectations at the beginning of the meeting, stop the meeting and ask those involved in the side conversation to share what they are talking about with the group, stop the meeting and comment that it is difficult for you to hear the other discussion or to concentrate on the topic at hand with side conversations occurring; privately talk with the distracters and discuss their expectations for the meeting's topics; empower others to confront the distracters with how these side conversations keep everyone from concentrating on the group's discussion. "I am having trouble focusing on the discussion with the side conversations going on. Is anyone else experiencing this?"
    "It is difficult to focus on the discussion with side conversations going on. Can we agree that we will all focus on the main discussion?"
    "I sense we are losing people's attention and interest, can we do a check-in to see where people are on this topic?"
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From my own experience of life and being a person who has sat on many committees and participated fully in all areas in many organizations over the years of my life, namely Football, and The Soup Kitchen to name two from the past.  More recent I joined in with a group of people who are united with Lock the Gate Alliance and this suits me as it is a apolitical group.

At any Blockade, Group, Meeting or team setting there will be people who take on roles such as those outlined above. This is common and it is very clear and evident to the initiated that it is occurring. 

Each morning and evening there were meetings and the roles were out in full force.  The name "Simmo" came from one such instance of hilarity when Peter Simmons was being the JOKER and said everyone could just be 'Simmo'. 

The next morning when the police arrived there were 'Simmo' badges worn by many of the protectors showing this to the world.   Proof that what happens in a group can be taken up and action happens just like that.  I still think Peter Simmons was just the man for this job.

I remember when a video was being played one evening and I was staggered at the groups opinion on how the indigenous of this country were handling the Mining issue,  there was no understanding of the "Sell Out" Aboriginal man who was doing the dirty work for the government.  I was so saddened that I left the group,  that is not helpful.  I realized this later on.  During the time it was happening I was acting on emotion.

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Glenugie Group Meeting in the early morning.

 Images @ Eminpee Fotography
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